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The legacy of so-called sundown towns where African Americans were not welcome. The story of Chicago’s rise as a Polish American hub. And bankruptcy for a local celebrity chef.
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November 18, 2019 - Full Show
11/18/2019 | 1h 2sVideo has Closed Captions
The legacy of so-called sundown towns where African Americans were not welcome. The story of Chicago’s rise as a Polish American hub. And bankruptcy for a local celebrity chef.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipPARTY HOLDING A SUPER MAJORITY IN THE ILLINOIS HOUSE, DEMOCRATS CONTROLLING THE GOVERNOR'S MANSION AND IN THE SENATE, A SUPER MAJORITY.
MORE THAN DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF DEMOCRATIC SENATORS THERE THAN THERE ARE REPUBLICANS.
WHICH IS TO SAY THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE THE SHEAR NUMBERS TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT POLICY WISE.
CULLERTON LEAVING WHILE THE F.B.I.
HAS A SHARP EYE ON VOWPION IN SPRINGFIELD.
THE SPOKESMAN SAID THE PRESIDENT IS ADAMANT HE PERSONALLY IS NOT UNDER FEDERAL INVESTIGATION.
HE IS KEEPING A PROMISE TO HIS WIFE THAT HE WILL SPEND MORE TIME WITH HIS FAMILY.
>> AND SO WHO DECIDES WHO WILL GET HIS JOB WHEN HE DECIDES TO LEAVE IN JANUARY?
>> THE FULL SENATE VOTES HERE.
DEMOCRATS OUTNUMBER REPUBLICANS MORE THAN TWO TO ONE.
IT IS UP TO THE SENATE DEMOCRATS.
AND MORE THAN LIKELY THEY WILL MEET IN PRIVATE IN EARLY JANUARY TO CHOOSE THEIR NEW CAUCUS LEADER AND THE FULL SENATE WILL HOLD A FORMAL SESSION AND MAKE IT OFFICIAL.
[NO AUDIO] SEVERAL OTHER SENATORS ARE ALSO INTERESTED AT THIS POINT.
THEY SAY THEY ARE TALKING TO COLLEAGUES AND NOT MAKING FORMAL ANNOUNCEMENTS.
SENATORS DON HARMON OF OAK PARK, MIKE HASTINGS.
I TALKED WITH EACH OF THEM AND THEY SAY THEY ARE MAKING CALLS AND LEARNING WHAT CHANGES THEIR COLLEAGUES WANT TO SEE IN SPRINGFIELD.
IT IS DIFFICULT TO GAUGE HOW THIS IS ALL GOING TO SHAKE OUT BECAUSE THESE ARE PRIVATE CONVERSATIONS.
SEVERAL LAWMAKERS, INSIDERS WE HAVE NOT MENTIONED YET THEY PREDICT THE RACE IS GOING TO COME DOWN BETWEEN HARMON AND LIGHTFOOT BUT WHO KNOWS.
>> OTHER NAMES POPPED UP AS WELL?
>> THAT IS TRUE.
MELINDA BUSH AND TONY MUNOZ NEITHER OF THEM RETURNED MY CALLS EITHER.
SO IT IS EARLY.
SENATORS WILL LIKELY VOTE IN EARLY JANUARY.
SO THERE ARE GOING TO BE A LOT OF TALKS LEADING UP TO THEN.
AND WHOEVER GETS THE JOB HAS A BIG TASK AHEAD OF THEM.
THEY WILL HAVE TO TRY AND HELP TO PASS A STATE BUDGET WHEN, OF COURSE, AS WE KNOW TIMES ARE LEAN IN ILLINOIS NOT A LOT OF MONEY TO WORK WITH.
[NO AUDIO] THE FIRST IS THAT THEY ARE NOT JUST MISSING THAT LINES BUT THE MONITOR HAS SAID THAT COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION AND THE CONSENT DECREE CONSENT DECREE AND THE MANNER THAT C.P.D.
IS GOING ABOUT IT IS DISENFRANCHISING THE COMMUNITY.
THEY NEED TO CHANGE THE WAY THEY ARE DOING INTERACTIONS AND GATHERING INFORMATION WHEN THEY ARE IMPLEMENTING POLICIES.
THE SECOND IS THAT A LOT OF THE POLICIES ARE KEY TO THE DECREE WE ARE NOT JUST MISSING SIDELINE POLICIES.
AND THEN THE THIRD IS THE MONITOR IDENTIFIED THAT THE DEPARTMENT NEEDS MORE RESOURCES AND A NUMBER OF AREAS IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THE REFORMS.
SO SHE IS IDENTIFYING THEY NEED MORE PEOPLE WORKING ON WRITING POLICIES ON TRAINING, CRISIS INTERVENTION AND THE REVIEW OF USE OF FORCE.
>> REVEREND RICHARDSON, LORI LIGHTFOOT HAS YOU HEARD TODAY IT WILL BE BETTER IN THE NEXT MONITORING REPORT AND C.P.D.
AS I READ THE REPORT SAYS WELL, THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS OF FINISHING THEIR WORK ON SOME OF THESE BENCHMARKS BUT WEREN'T QUITE THERE YET.
IS THAT PERSUASIVE FOR YOU?
>> NOT VERY AT ALL.
[NO AUDIO] MAKING SOLUTIONS.
WE ARE ARGUING IT NEEDS TO BE COMMUNITY CENTERED AND WHAT THAT MEANS IS YOU NEED TO COME INTO THE SPACE AND ENGAGE COMMUNITY MEMBERS AND LISTEN TO WHAT THEY HAVE TO SAY AND ACCEPT YOU ARE A POLICE OFFICER AND YOUR PRESENCE MIGHT BRING TRAUMA AND PAIN WITH IT.
I AM AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN MALE AND MIDDLE AGE AND WHEN I APPROACH A POLICE OFFICER MY BLOOD PRESSURE INCREASES AND THAT IS THE TIP OF THE ICEBERG.
PEOPLE HAVE MUCH MORE TRAUMATIC EXPERIENCES.
SO WHEN POLICE COME INTO A SPACE THEY HAVE TO RECOGNIZE THAT THEIR PRESENCE IS BRINGING PAIN WITH IT.
BUT IN THE MIDST OF COMING IN AND ENGAGING THE OVERTONES OF THEIR PRESENCE THEY HAVE TO BE ABLE TO LISTEN TO FOLKS AND TAKER TAKE SERIOUSLY AND RECEIVE THE DATA, PROCESS IT AND RETURN INFORMATION AND FEEDBACK IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO DO SOMETHING COMMUNICATE THAT BACK TO THE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY HAVE GOTTEN THE INFORMATION FROM.
AND GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MAKING CHANGE MEASURABLY REPORT BACK OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND LET FOLKS KNOW THEY ARE WORKING OUT THE THINGS THE FOLKS HAVE GIVEN THEM INPUT FOR.
WE NEED MORE OF THAT.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT JUMPED OUT AT ME AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT JUMPED OUT AT YOU, THE REPORT SAYS THERE ARE 100 DIFFERENT DATA SYSTEMS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
I KNOW AS A REPORTER FILING FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT REQUESTS THERE ARE ALL SORTS OF DIFFERENT REPERTORIES FOR THAT DATA.
HOW DOES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT COMPLY WHEN IT DOESN'T HAVE ITS SYSTEMS TALKING TO EACH OTHER SO YOU CAN FIND ONE REPORT THROUGH THAT WHOLE PORTAL?
>> THAT IS A PIECE THAT STOOD OUT TO ME, TOO.
SOMEONE 2 SUED THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IT'S DIFFICULT TO TRACK DOWN INFORMATION AND PART OF WHAT THAT TELLS US INTERNALLY THEY WILL HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME.
[NO AUDIO] >> THE REPORT SAYS THAT MAY NEED MORE RESOURCES.
THIS IS THE CITY OF CHICAGO WHICH IS BLEEDING RED INK AS WELL AS SOME OF OUR YOUTH ON THE STREETS OF CHICAGO.
WHERE DO YOU GET THE MONEY TO DO MORE THAN THEY ARE CURRENTLY DOING?
WHAT IS THE SOLUTION TO THAT?
>> WELL, WE HAVE TO DO IT.
WE'RE PAYING SO MUCH IN THE POLICE CONDUCT CASES IF WE DO NOT INVEST IN THE REFORM EFFORT WE WILL BE STARING DOWN MORE HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS AND POLICE MISCONDUCT COMPOUNDED ON THE FACT THAT EVERYONE OF THOSE DOLLARS REPRESENTS THE PAIN SOMEBODY WENT THROUGH.
>> WE NEED A CULTURAL CHANGE.
WHETHER THEY ARE DRIVING AND OT CAR OR PUBLIC FORUM OR PRIVATE SPACE, THAT IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO GET TO AND IT IS A PROBLEM THAT HAS TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY AND HAS TO BE ENGAGED WITH A LOT OF WORK AND ENERGY AND EFFORT.
>> ARE YOU OPTIMISTIC, EITHER OF YOU THAT THIS IS GOING TO TURNOUT WELL AND TURN ITSELF AROUND?
>> I AM A PERSON OF FAITH.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, OPTIMISM AND HOPE RANGE THROUGH MY BLOOD BUT I AM ALSO A BLACK MAN WHO LIVES AND WORKS IN THE CHICAGOLAND AREA AND I'VE GOT TWO CHILDREN AS WELL.
AND SO THE REALITY IS THAT IN ORDER TO ACHIEVE THAT CULTURAL CHANGE IT WILL TAKE A LOT OF ENERGY AND EFFORT AND A LOT OF CHANGE.
>> IN A WORD, YES, NO?
>> IT'S THE BEST SHOT WE HAVE FOR REFORM IN CHICAGO THE CONSENT DECREE OVERSEEN BY A FEDERAL JUDGMENT I'M BOUND TO BE OPTIMISTIC YES.
KAREN SHELEY AND SAEED RICHARDSON THANK YOU.
MORE AHEAD.
STAY WITH US.
>> CITY COUNCIL IS GETTING CLOSER TO VOTING ON THE MAYOR'S PROPOSED BUDGET.
BRANDIS FRIEDMAN HAS THAT STORY AND MORE OF WHAT IS MAKING NEWS IN CHICAGO TONIGHT.
>> AND MAYOR LORI LIGHTFOOT SAYS THE BUDGET IS IN QUOTE GOOD SHAPE HEADING INTO A VOTE NEXT WEEK.
SOME AMENDMENTS AND CHANGES HAVE BEEN SUGGESTED SINCE SHE INTRODUCED IT BUT THIS WEEK HER OFFICE HAS BEEN IN TOUCH WITH CITY COUNCIL TO REMIND FOLKS WHO WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET AND HOW THEY WANT TO BRIDGE THE GAP.
>> WE ARE LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF EFFICIENCIES AND MADE ADDITIONAL CUTS IN PERSONNEL.
BUT I FEEL COMFORTABLE WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE IS THE ONLY PROPERTY TAX INCREASE WHICH IS A SMALL INCREASE IN THE LIBRARY LEVY TO FACILITATE THE OPENING ON SUNDAY HOURS.
YOU WILL NOT SEE A LARGE PROPERTY TAX INCREASE.
>> AND MAY NOT BE BEACH GOING WEATHER FOR A WHILE BUT RESIDENTS WHO LIVE NEAR CHICAGO BEACHES WILL NOTICE MORE ACTIVITY.
THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSATION AND THE PARK DISTRICT ARE WORKING TO STOP EROSION CAUSED BY WAVES AND STORMS AT AREA BEACHES.
AND THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS PREDICT LAKE LEVEL ALSO REMAIN HIGH.
CREWS WILL START WORKING AT JUNE WAY BEACH AND ROGERS AND HOWARD BEACHES LAYING LOOSE STONES.
THE WILL CONTINUE DOING SIMILAR WORK AND INSTALLING BARRIERS TO PROTECT SOUTH SHORE DRIVE.
AS FOR THE WEATHER TONIGHT CLOUDY WITH A LOW AROUND 34.
TOMORROW MORNING RAINS AND CLOUDY AND A HIGH OF 41.
PHIL, BACK TO YOU.
>> THANK YOU.
STILL TO COME ON "CHICAGO TONIGHT"... A NEW RULE FOR DOCTORS AND HOSPITALS TO TELL YOU THE COSTS OF TESTS OR NONEMERGENCY PROCEDURES.
BUT COULD THE RULE KIND UP RAISING -- WINDUP RAISING PRICES.
>> A PROPUBLICA REPORTER WHO CONFRONTED RACISM IN SUNDOWN TOWNS.
GEM STONES AND MORE IN A LOCAL MUSEUM.
A LOCAL HISTORIAN CHARTS THE RISE OF CHICAGO AS A POLISH AMERICAN MAGNET.
AND CHICAGO'S HEBRU BRANTLEY CREATED ART FOR SOME OF HOLLYWOOD'S BIGGEST NAMES AND IS NOW BRINGING SOME OF THE WORK BACK HOME.
HERE IS CRAIN'S CHICAGO BUSINESS EDITOR, ANN DWYER.
CRAIN'S REPORTS MONDAY THAT THE MAYOR IS DISMANTLING ONE OF HER PREDECESSOR'S MOST BALLYHOOED INITIATIVES - NAMELY, RAHM EMANUEL'S CHICAGO INFRASTRUCTURE TRUST.
THE TRUST WAS FIRST ROLLED OUT IN 2012, PROMISING TO TRANSFORM CHICAGO WITH MEGA-PROJECTS SO ENTICING THAT THEY COULD BE BANKROLLED ENTIRELY BY PRIVATE INVESTORS IN EXCHANGE FOR A CHUNK OF THE PROFITS.
AMONG THE TRUST'S BIG PROJECTS WERE THE INSTALLATION OF 4G ON CTA TRAINS, RETROFITTING MUNICIPAL BUILDINGS FOR ENERGY EFFICIENCY AND REPLACING STREETLIGHTS WITH LED BULBS.
BUT THE PROGRAM NEVER REALLY CAUGHT FIRE AND, AS A RESULT, LIGHTFOOT IS FOLLOWING THROUGH ON A CAMPAIGN PROMISE TO WIND IT DOWN.
BOEING WAS HIT MONDAY WITH A SHAREHOLDER LAWSUIT SEEKING TO HOLD COMPANY BOARD MEMBERS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE LAPSES OF OVERSIGHT THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THE CRASHES OF TWO 737 MAX JETLINERS THAT KILLED MORE THAN 300 PEOPLE.
THE LAWSUIT ALLEGES DIRECTORS MISSED REPEATED RED FLAGS DURING DEVELOPMENT OF THE 737 MAX AUTOMATED FLIGHT-CONTROL SYSTEMS AND THEN WAITED MONTHS TO INVESTIGATE THE ROLE OF DESIGN FLAWS IN THE FIRST OF THE TWO FATAL ACCIDENTS.
THE SUIT ALSO CHARGES THAT IN ITS RUSH TO GET THE 737 MAX TO MARKET, THE CHICAGO-BASED PLANE MAKER DIDN'T PROPERLY TEST THE NEW SYSTEM OR ADEQUATELY TRAIN PILOTS.
AND FINALLY, PORK & MINDY'S IS NO MORE.
THE BARBECUE JOINT HAS FILED FOR CHAPTER 7 BANKRUPTCY.
THE CHAIN, WHICH DEBUTED IN BUCKTOWN IN JANUARY 2016 AND THEN EXPANDED TO LOCATIONS IN WRIGLEY FIELD AND THE LOOP, HAS SHUT ITS DOORS.
THE NEWS COMES JUST MONTHS AFTER ITS OWNER INKED A DEAL WITH THE MARIANO'S GROCERY CHAIN TO OPEN 20 STORES BY YEAREND.
A FEW WERE UP AND RUNNING BEFORE THE BANKRUPTCY FILING.
OR CRAIN'S CHICAGO BUSINESS AND CHICAGOBUSINESS.COM I'M ANN DWYER.
BAU TO YOU, PHIL.
>> THANK YOU.
>> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS PRO POAG A NEW HEALTHCARE PRICE TRANSPARENCY RULE.
IT WOULD FORCE HOSPITALS TO EXPLAIN HOW MUCH A MEDICAL SERVICE WOULD COST UP FRONT BEFORE A PATIENT RECEIVES TREATMENT.
YOUR INSURANCE PLAN WOULD HAVE TO TELL YOU HOW MUCH IT WOULD PAY AND HOW MUCH YOU WOULD OWE BEFORE THE SERVICE IS PERFORMED.
JOINING US TO TELL US MORE IS ANTHONY LoSASSO, HE IS PROFESSOR AT DePAUL UNIVERSITY AN ECONOMIST FOCUSING ON HEALTH POLICY AND HEALTH SERVICES AND OUT COMES.
ANTHONY LoSASSO WELCOME BACK TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."
EXPLAIN WHAT THE NEW RULE WOULD DO.
>> THE NEW RULE HAS THREE PIECES TO IT.
I WILL TALK ABOUT THEM BRIEFLY.
THE FIRST ONE IS THAT HEALTH INSURERS HAVE TO PROVIDE A TOOL THAT WILL ALLOW THEIR ENROLLEES TO LEARN ABOUT HEALTHCARE COSTS.
FOR POTENTIAL SERVICES THAT THEY MAY RECEIVE.
THIS IS NOT EMERGENCY -- THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE SOMETIME TO PERHAPS DELIBERATE OVER MAYBE IF IT IS A HERNIA REPAIR OR KNEE NOT IN THE BACK OF AN AMBULANCE.
BUT I WILL POINT OUT ON THAT INSURERS ARE DOING THIS.
WE PROBABLY YOU AND I PROBABLY HAVE ACCESS TO A TOOL THAT LETS US LOOK UP HEALTHCARE COSTS IN OUR PLAN.
PROBLEM IS NOBODY USES IT.
I DON'T USE IT.
I DON'T KNOW MAYBE YOU DO BUT I DON'T.
THEY ARE DOING IT THE SECOND ITEM IS THE ONE THAT IS CAUSING MOST OF THE CONCERN, I THINK IN BOTH THE PROVIDER COMMUNITY AND MAYBE THE HEALTH INSURANCE INDUSTRY AND THAT IS THAT THE HEALTH INSURERS ARE SUPPOSED TO LISTS OF ALL OF THE CONTRACT PRICES FOR HEALTHCARE SERVICES.
NEGOTIATED PRICES NOT THE CHARGES, WHICH ARE THE WILDLY INFLATED NUMBERS THAT HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS CHARGE FOR SERVICES.
THESE ARE THE NEGOTIATED RATES AT WHICH THEY WILL ACCEPT REIMBURSEMENT FROM INSURERS.
THE THIRD PIECE HAS TO DO WITH BASICALLY ALLOWING INSURERS TO CREATE NEW PLANS THAT WOULD CREATE SHARED SAVINGS INCENTIVES THAT THE WOULD PERHAPS CREATE MEANINGFUL INCENTIVES FOR INSURESSERS TO WANT TO PUSH ENROLLEES TO CHEAPER HEALTHCARE PROVIDERS.
>> IT WOULD BE A CONSUMER FRIENDLY WAY OF COMPARING COSTS SO IF YOU WANTED TO GET A KNEE REPLACE APARTMENT AT NORTHWESTERN YOU COULD COMPARE WHAT IT WOULD COST TU AT SWEDEN COVENANT AND LUTHERAN GENERAL.
>> THAT IS WHAT THE RULE ASPIRES TO DO TO TRY TO CREATE BASICALLY HEALTHCARE TRANSPARENCY WITH RESPECT TO PRICES.
>> WHY IS THAT NOT A GOOD THING?
>> THAT IS A VERY GOOD THING, I THINK.
PRICES ARE WHAT MOTIVATE BEHAVIOR AND JUST ABOUT EVERY OTHER ASPECT OF OUR LIVES.
HEALTHCARE IS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED FOR A NUMBER OF REASONS.
WELL, WE HAVE INSURERS AND WE DON'T SEE THE PULL PRICE OF CARE AND WE DON'T NEED TO CARE ABOUT THE FULL PRICE OF HEALTHCARE BECAUSE IT'S COVERED.
NOW, THAT'S BEEN CHANGING IN RECENT YEARS BECAUSE DEDUCTIBLES HAVE BEEN GOING UP IN THE LAST DECADE OR SO.
THAT'S THE AMOUNT THAT YOU PAY OUT OF POCKET BEFORE YOUR INSURANCE KICKS IN.
CONSUMERS AND PATIENTS HAVE MORE SKIN IN THE GAME NOW.
SO THIS COULD HAVE SOME MEANINGFUL EFFECT.
>> TYPICALLY IN ONE KNOWS WHAT THE PRICE IS SHOPPING FOR A NEW CAR, YOU MIGHT GET THREE QUOTES AND DECIDE I WILL GO WITH THE CHEAPEST OPTION.
WOULDN'T THIS WORK TO BRING PRICES DOWN?
>> I THINK THAT SHORT ANSWER IS MAYBE.
SO I WOULD SAY THAT THERE IS A LOT OF FORCES IN HEALTHCARE THAT ACTUALLY CONSPIRE NOT NECESSARILY OVERTLY BUT CONSPIRE TO WORK AGAINST THAT AIM.
AND SOME OF IT IS SIMPLY PRACTICAL THAT YOU MAY HAVE A GREAT DEAL OF INCENTIVE TO STAY WITH WHAT YOUR PROVIDER RECOMMENDS.
IF YOUR PROVIDER SAYS GO SEE SO AND SO FOR YOUR MRI, YOU ARE INCLINED TO GO SEE THAT PHYSICIAN.
>> CAN I GIVE YOU A PERSONAL EXAMPLE MY PHYSICIAN ASKED ME TO GET A CALCIUM HEART SCAN AND SAID YOU CAN GET IT AT THE HOSPITAL WHERE I'M ATTENDING TONIGHT WILL COST YOU $400 THERE IS ANOTHER HOSPITAL WITH THE IDENTICAL TEST IS $150.
I WENT ON-LINE AND FOUND ONE THAT DID IT FOR $49.
AND THAT IS WHERE I WENT TO.
WHY ISN'T THAT GOOD INFORMATION?
>> UNDENIABLY GOOD INFORMATION.
STANDARD PROCEDURE ABSOLUTELY.
YOU HAVE TO SKIN IN THE GAME AND YOU ARE BEING AN INFORMED CONSUMER.
THESE TOOLS ALREADY EXIST WE ARE NOT USING THEM.
AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE'S NOT A PROVIDER ORGANIZATIONS HERE TO TALK WITH US ABOUT THIS.
>> BECAUSE THEY ARE OPPOSED TO IT.
WHY ARE THE HOSPITALS AND THE INSURANCE COMPANIES OPPOSED TO THIS?
>> I THINK THE MAIN THING IS THE SECOND PART OF THE RULE.
THE PUBLISHING LISTS IN A MACHINE READABLE FORMAT.
SO I AM A HEALTHCARE ECONOMIST I STUDY THIS STUFF FOR A LIVING I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE PROSPECT OF GETTING MY HANDS ON THAT DATA TO LOOK AND SEE WHAT IS BEING WHAT IS THE TRANSACTION PRICE FOR HEALTHCARE SERVICES.
AND SHOWING AND LOOKING AT HOW MUCH VARIATION THERE IS WITHIN A CHICAGO AND MAYBE ACROSS THE STREET.
EXAMPLES THAT LIKE THE ONE THAT YOU PROVIDED.
THERE IS A HUGE AMOUNT OF VARIATION BUT IT'S INVISIBLE.
THERE IS NOT A CULTURE IN THE HEALTHCARE SYSTEM WHERE WE THINK LIKE CONSUMERS.
>> ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE RULE REQUIRES IS THIS INFORMATION BE PRESENTED IN A CONSUMER FRIENDLY WAY.
I IMAGINE THAT WOULD BE KEY.
>> YES.
AND IT'S ALREADY THERE.
THEY ARE DOING IT.
IN CONSUMERS TODAY HEALTH INSURERS HAVE SLICK TOOLS THAT WE'RE NOT USING THEY ARE OUT THERE.
I THINK THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD TAKE A LOOK EVERYBODY OUT THERE SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THEIR INSURERS' WEBSITE AND WHAT TOOLS THEY HAVE NOW ALREADY.
>> ANTHONY LoSASSO THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.
BY THE WAY, THIS NEW RULE IS A PROPOSED RULE.
THERE IS A YEAR'S WORTH OF PUBLIC COMMENTARY BEFORE IT WOULD GO INTO EFFECT.
AND THE LIST OF SUNDOWN TOWNS IN ILLINOIS.
AND ELSEWHERE.
STAY WITH US.
SUNDOWN TOWN IS A TERM MANY PEOPLE MIGHT NOT BE FAMILIAR WITH BUT ONE THAT IS KNOWN 0 TO MANY AFRICAN-AMERICANS.
THESE WERE PLACES ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND TOWNS AND VILLAGES WHERE BLACK AMERICANS KNEW THEY WERE NOT WELCOME ESPECIALLY AFTER DARK.
A NEW PROPUBLICA STORY EXAMINES THE LEGACY OF ONE SUNDOWN TOWN IN SOUTHERN ILLINOIS CALLED ANNA.
JOINING US IS REPORTER LOGAN JAFFE.
WELCOME TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT."
AND FOR PEOPLE WHO AREN'T FAMILIAR WITH THE TERM MORE ON WHAT A SUNDOWN TOWN.
>> SURE IT IS NOT COMMUNITY IN THE ENTIRE UNITED STATES THAT AT SOME POINT IN THEIR HISTORY HAD A POLICY OR PRACTICE THAT EXCLUDED BLACK PEOPLE FROM LIVING THERE AND PARTICULARLY FROM BEING THERE AFTER DARK.
>> AND YOUR INTEREST WAS SPARKED BY A BOOK.
[NO AUDIO] THAT PROMPTED MORE INVESTIGATING FROM ME.
>> AND YOU WRITE IN YOUR ARTICLE FOLLOWING UP ON YOUR THIS UPDATE ON THE TOWN OF ANNA, DESCRIBE THE WAY HE SAID IT AND HOW SELF CONSCIOUS HE WAS, WHAT OTHER PEOPLE AROUND TELL US ABOUT THAT?
>> YEAH.
YOU KNOW THE PART OF ME WAS NOT EXPECTING TO HEAR THIS AT ALL.
I WAS ASSUMING THIS HAPPENED IN THE PAST I WAS NOT EXPECTING TO HEAR THIS.
BUT WHEN HE SAID THAT, YOU KNOW HE DIDN'T QUITE LOOK AROUND THE ROOM.
HE JUST LOOKED ME IN THE EYE AND SAID IT AS IF YOU WOULD SAY ANYTHING.
THIS TOWN WAS FOUNDED IN 1854.
THIS IS TOWN IS KNOWN AS A-N-N-AA.
>> SELF CONSCIOUS?
>> NOT THAT I DETECTED.
>> YOU SPENT TWO YEARS WORKING ON THIS PROJECT.
AND SO HOW DID YOU GO ABOUT REPORT TO GO?
HOW DID YOU INTERACT WITH PEOPLE?
>> I MEAN I JUST AT FIRST I WAS TRYING TO TALK TO AS MANY DIFFERENT PEOPLE IN ANNA AS I COULD.
[NO AUDIO] MOORE I REALIZED THERE WAS A CURIOSITY ABOUT THIS ACRONYM AND WHY.
SO I STARTED DOING THE HISTORICAL RESEARCH.
>> AND YOU INCLUDE A STARTLING PHOTO OF A 1909 LYNCHING IN ANNA WITNESSED BY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE.
AND ALSO YOU HIGHLIGHT HOW MUCH OF SOUTHERN ILLINOIS SYMPATHIZED WITH THE SOUTH BEFORE AND AFTER THE CIVIL WAR.
TELL US MORE ABOUT THIS.
>> I WOULDN'T TO BE CLEAR.
THE PHOTO IS IN CARROW.
CLOSE TO ANNA.
35 MILES SOUTH OF ANNA.
BUT THE STORY BEHIND THIS PARTICULAR PHOTO IS A COUPLE DAYS BEFORE THAT THERE WAS A YOUNG WHITE WOMAN FROM ANNA AND HER NAME WAS ANNA.
SHE WAS FOUND MURDERED IN THE ALLEY IN 1909 AND A COUPLE DAYS LATER A BLACK NAME WILLIAM JAMES WAS ACCUSED OF HER MURDER WITHOUT TRIAL AND WORD SPREAD ABOUT HIS ARREST.
THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE ARE REPORTED THE CARROW BULLETIN, THE NEWSPAPER SHOWED UP AND HE WAS LYNCHED.
[NO AUDIO] PAD REN NO AUDIO] [NO AUDIO] 150 CRAFTSMEN WORKING ON IT FULL-TIME.
>> THE REIMAGINED MUSEUM HAS INTERACTIVE DISPLAYS AND MINERALS FROM AROUND THE WORLD INCLUDING UNCANNY EYE CATCHING FORMATIONS.
IT IS A COMBINATION OF NATURE, SCIENCE AND ARTISTRY.
THERE ARE SNUFF BOXES, MOW KAYICS OF THIN LAYERS OF FON STONE AND DID WE MENTION DIORAMAS?
THE MUSEUM WAS FOUNDED IN 1962 BY JOSEPH LIZZADRO AN ITALIAN IMMIGRANT WHO COLLECTED STONE CALFINGS AND MADE JEWELRY AS A HOBBY.
HE MADE A FORTUNE IN THE ELECTRICAL CONTRACTING BUSINESS AND WHEN HE DIED IN 1972 HE LEFT AN ENDOWMENT TO HELP SUPPORT THE MUSEUM.
THE DIRECTOR IS A GEMOLOGIST AND ALSO THE FOUNDER'S GRANDDAUGHTER.
>> AS A FAMILY WE CARE ABOUT THE PIECES WE WANT TO MAINTAIN THE COLLECTION AND SHARE IT WITH THE PUBLIC AND WE WANT TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT ROCKS AND MINERALS AND GEM STONES.
>> THE LIZZADRO MUSEUM OF LAPIDARY ART REOPENED LAST WEEK.
AND NOW TO PARIS SCHUTZ AND THE STORY OF CHICAGO'S RISE AS A POLISH AMERICAN HUB.
PARIS?
>> THE FIRST WAVE OF POLISH IMMIGRATION TO CHICAGO WAS IN THE 1860s.
SINCE THEN CHICAGO HAS LONG BEEN HOME TO ONE OF THE LARGEST POLISH POPULATIONS.
POLISH AMERICANS HAVE HELPED SHAPE THE CITY AND HELPED INFLUENCE THE POLITICAL DEVELOPMENT OF POLAND ITSELF.
A LOCAL HISTORIAN TELLS THAT STORY IN A BOOK CALLED "AMERICAN WARSAW: THE RISE, FALL AND REBIRTH OF POLISH CHICAGO".
AND JOINING US NOW WE DELIGHTED TO WELCOME DOMINIC PACYGA, PROFESSOR EMERITUS OF HISTORY AT COLUMBIA COLLEGE CHICAGO.
WELCOME BACK TO "CHICAGO TONIGHT".
>> WE KNOW CHICAGO HAS BEEN A CENTER OF POLISH AMERICAN LIFE.
WHY DID IT BECOME SUCH A FOCAL POINT OF POLISH IMMIGRATION?
>> IT WAS QUICKLY EXPANDING CITY RIGHT AFTER THE CIVIL WAR.
AND THE EXPANSION NEEDED LABOR.
AND THE POLES WERE BEGINNING TO MOVE AND BROUGHT INTO THE EUROPEAN NETWORK OF RAILROADS AND THEY CAME TO GERMAN PORTS AND ENDED UP IN NEW YORK AND OFF TO HERE.
IT BECAME A MAGNET, STOCKYARDS THE STEEL MILLS AND THE FACTORIES ON THE NORTH BRANCH SPREADING OUT INTO THE SUBURBS.
>> HOW WERE THEY GREETED AS NEW IMMIGRANTS INTO THE CITY?
>> THEY WERE UNSKILLED LABOR.
THE ONES IN THE 19TH CENTURY UNSKILLED LABOR.
AND THERE WAS A GOOD DEAL OF PREJUDICE AGAINST THEM AS MOST IMMIGRANT GROUPS AS THEY BEGAN IN THE AMERICAN LANDSCAPE.
>> DO YOU SENSE A SIMILAR SET OF LANGUAGE IN THE ANTI-IMMIGRANT MOVEMENT TODAY AS THE POLES FACED WHEN THEY CAME HERE?
>> THE MEDIA IS SO DIFFERENT.
YEAH, THERE WAS ANTI-POLISH NEWSPAPERS, THERE WERE OTHER KINDS OF PREJUDICES AND EUROPEAN IMMIGRATION FROM EASTERN AND SOUTHERN EUROPE WAS CUTOFF IN THE MID-1920s AFTER WORLD WAR I.
>> AND EXPLAIN POLISH ASSIMILATION INTO AMERICAN LIFE THEY STARTED IN THE UNSKILLED POSITIONS WHERE DID THEY GO?
>> IT TOOK A LONGTIME BUT PEOPLE CLIMBED THE LADDER AND BOUT HOUSES AND SAVED MONEY AND MOVED TO THE SUBURBS.
MANY AFTER WORLD WAR II BEGAN TO ENTER INTO UNIVERSITIES AND COLLEGES AND MOVE UP THE LADDER.
BUT THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL WAVES.
THE NEW WAVES AT THE BOTTOM AGAIN AND WORK THEIR WAY UP.
IT'S A FASCINATING STORY.
WE HAVE HAD A RELATIONSHIP, CHICAGO'S HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH POLAND 150 YEARS.
THERE ARE STILL NEWSPAPERS MY FAMILY COMES FROM THE MOUNTAINS.
AND THERE'S NEWSPAPERS THAT HAVE ADVERTISEMENTS FOR BUTCHER SHOPS AND LAWYERS AND REAL ESTATE FIRMS ON ARCHER AVENUE.
>> IT IS A PLACE IN POLAND?
>> A CITY IN POLAND IN THE MOUNTAINS CLOSE TO WHERE MY FAMILY COMES FROM.
>> AND WHEN DID YOUR FAMILY MIGRATE?
>> BEFORE WORLD WAR I BECAUSE WORLD WAR I WAS THE PEAK FROM POLL LAND CALLED LITTLE POLAND.
AND IT'S SO THEY CAME AS UNSKILLED WORKERS IN THE STOCKYARDS.
>> TALK ABOUT THE DIVISIONS AMONG POLISH AMERICANS AND WHAT IT MEANS TO BE POLISH AMERICAN?
PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT IDEAS WHAT THEIR IDENTITY IS?
>> PREPOLAND WAS PARTITIONED THE THE END OF THE 18TH CENTURY AND LARGE POLAND, THE POLAND BEFORE THE PARTITIONS WAS A MULTIETHNIC STATE, UKRAINIANS, LITHUANIANS AND AR MEANIANS WERE PART OF THE POLISH CROWN.
WHO IS A POLE?
THE IDEA OF WHO IS A POLE?
WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE POLISH WAS IMPORTANT HERE AND POLAND.
PEASANTS WERE NOT CONSIDERED TO BE POLES THEY WERE THE UNDER LINGS.
>> HOW DID THAT DIVISION PLAY OUT IN CHICAGO?
>> IT ENDED UP IN A BREAK BETWEEN VARIOUS FACTIONS.
THERE WAS ONE GROUP THAT WOULD GO ON TO HELP THE POLISH NATIONAL ALLIANCE.
THE POLISH ROMAN CATHOLIC UNION SAID IF YOU WERE POLISH YOU HAD TO BE CATHOLIC.
AND THE POLISH NATIONAL ALLIANCE SAID YOU ARE POLISH IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE RESTORATION OF THE POLISH REPUBLIC.
HOW DO YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELVES?
MANY JEWS IDENTIFIED AS POLES AND BROUGHT INTO THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE.
>> AND THE DARK SIDE OF POLISH LIFE ORGANIZED CRIME EXPLAIN THAT?
>> LIKE ANY IMMIGRANT GROUP THERE WAS CRIME.
AND THERE IS BECAUSE THERE'S POVERTY.
THERE WAS A GOOD DEAL OF POVERTY IN THE POLISH COMMUNITY SO THERE WERE GANGS AND CRIME.
JOHNNY ALBERTA BACK OF THE YARDS WAS A BOOZE RUNNER DURING PROHIBITION AND A VIOLENT FELLA.
HE SUPPOSEDLY INVENTED THE ONE WAY RIDE AND SOMEBODY TOOK HIM ON A ONE-WAY RIDE AND DROPPED HIM OFF ON ROBERTS ROAD.
SO THERE'S BEEN THIS KIND OF WHEN GROUPS COME IN THEY ARE POOR AND THERE'S POVERTY, SOMETIMES THE ONLY WAY OUT IS TO SOMETIMES THROUGH CRIMINAL ACTIVITY OR POLITICS.
AND OTHER KINDS OF WAYS WHICH WE SEE PLAYING OUT IN OTHER ETHNIC GROUPS.
FINALLY BUT INTO THE 1950s THERE WERE STREET GANGS IN THE CITY THAT WERE POLISH.
>> AND YOU SEGUED INTO POLITICS.
TALK ABOUT THE CHICAGO POLISH COMMUNITY'S RISE IN LOCAL POLITICS.
>> YOU KNOW THE FIRST REAL IMPORTANT POLISH POLITICIAN IS PETER KIELBASA.
AND NOTHING TO DO WITH THE SAUSAGE.
SO KIELBASA WAS AN INTERESTING CHARACTER HE WAS A CAVALRY OFFICER AND FIT THE ROLE HE WAS HANDSOME YOUNG MAN.
CAME AS A CAVALRY OFFICER AND HELPED ORGANIZE THE PARISH.
NOBLE AND ROSE IN THE POLITICAL LIFE VERSUS A REPUBLICAN TURNING OVER TO BEING A DEMOCRAT AND YOU SAW THE POLISH COMMUNITY WAS DIVIDED BETWEEN DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS AND SOCIALISTS AND ANARCHISTS TOO.
THERE WAS A LOT OF DIVISIONS IN THE COMMUNITY.
>> SAINT STANISLAUS A POLITICIAN.
>> LIVED AROUND THE CORNER.
AND HIS FATHER, OF COURSE, WAS THE ALDERMAN BEFORE HE ROSE IN THE DEMOCRATIC POLITICS.
>> WE SAID AT THE TOP HOW POLISH LIFE IN CHICAGO INFLUENCED POLAND.
TELL US ABOUT THAT?
>> MY FIRST CHAPTER DEALS WITH THE WORLD'S FAIR IN CHICAGO AND THE PROVINCIAL FAIR IN A POLISH CITY AND THAT FAIR WAS ORGANIZED IN 1894.
TO PRESENT POLISH CULTURE TO THE WORLD SO THAT POLAND WOULD NOT BE FORGOTTEN AND CHICAGO POLLS WERE ACTIVE.
THEY BUILT A HOUSE BASED ON AMERICAN ARCHITECTURE QUEEN ANN STYLE AND FILL TO DO WITH POLISH STUFF IN THE UNITED STATES.
AND DURING WORLD WAR I THEY RAISED AN ARMY OF 30,000 MEN TO FIGHT FOR EUROPE.
AND MANY FROM CHICAGO ENDED UP IN THE AMERICAN ARMY.
IT WAS A CAUSE FOR THE NEIGHBOR FOR THE NEIGHBORHOODS BUT ALSO A CAUSE FOR JUST THEM AS A WHOLE.
THEY WERE REFERRED TO AS THE FOURTH PARTITION.
THIS WAS THE FOURTH ONE THE MISSING BRER WHO, BY THE WAY, COULD SEND MONEY AND SPEND BLOOD AND TREASURE TO HELP.
>> IN TUNED TO WHAT WAS HAPPENED.
LASTLY YOU WRITE ABOUT THE REBIRTH OF POLISH LIFE IN CHICAGO.
A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WERE POLISH IT'S CHANGED, EVOLVED, POLES MOVED TO THE SUBURBS WHAT IS THE REBIRTH YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT?
>> THERE IS A REBIRTH IN THE SUBURBS BUT A REBIRTH IN CHICAGO.
THE POLISH FILM FESTIVAL IN CHICAGO.
I WAS HONORED TO BE VICE MARSHALL OF THE POLISH PARADE AND THERE WAS 100,000 PEOPLE, 200,000 PEOPLE IF YOU TOOK IN THE MARCHERS.
AND IT WAS A THREE-HOUR PARADE.
IT WAS A REAL EXPRESSION OF POLISH PARADE.
THE LARGEST POLISH PARADE IN THE WORLD I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S TRUE HAVING STOOD IN THE COLD AT THAT FOR A WHILE.
BUT YEAH, I THINK YOU NOW SEEING A REBIRTH ESPECIALLY IN POLISH CULTURE.
NOW THAT POLAND HAS BECOME IN A LOT OF WAYS A MORE NORMAL EUROPEAN COUNTRY.
IT IS A MEMBER OF NATO AND THE EU YOU CAN GO THERE EASILY.
FIRST TIME I WENT IT WAS A COMMUNIST COUNTRY AND I WAS STOPPED AT THE BORDER AND HASSLED ME.
AND ASKED IF I WAS C.I.A.
NOW, YOU GO IN LIKE YOU DO IN PARIS OR LONDON OR NEW YORK.
IF YOU LAND YOU GO THROUGH CUSTOMS AND MOVE ON.
SO IT IS A MORE NORMAL COUNTRY.
POLNIA DOES NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT POLAND ANYMORE THEY CAN WORRY ABOUT OTHER THINGS.
AND YOU SEE THE UPWARD MOVEMENT OF THE POLISH AMERICANS THERE'S BEEN INTERMARRIAGE AND ASSIMILATION.
I AM A THIRD GENERATION AMERICAN.
MY DAUGHTER IS A FOURTH GENERATION.
OTHERS HAVE ARE FIFTH AND SIXTH GENERATION WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE POLISH?
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN POLAND IS UNDER STRESS UNDER DANGER FROM THE NEIGHBORS THE SOVIETS, THE GERMANS, WHATEVER THEN POLAND BECOMES A VERY BIG ISSUE IN CHICAGO POLISH COMMUNITY.
>> DOMINIC PACYGA IT'S ALL IN THIS BOOK.
THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND THE BOOK IS CALLED, "AMERICAN WARSAW: THE RISE, FALL AND REBIRTH OF POLISH CHICAGO".
AND YOU CAN READ AN EXCERPT ON OUR WEBSITE.
AND WE'RE BACK WITH MORE RIGHT AFTER THIS.
>> YEARS AGO CHICAGO WAS INTRODUCED TO AN CHARACTER SEEN FLYING THROUGHOUT THE CITY IN BRIGHT GOGGLES.
THOSE GOGGLES GOT NATIONAL RECOGNITION AS ARTIST HEBRU BRANTLEY BEGAN CREATING MORE CHARACTERS TO ACCOMPANY FLY BOY AND HIS FLY BOY UNIVERSE.
BRANTLEY'S WORK HAS BEEN FEATURED IN EXHIBITIONS AROUND THE COUNTRY AND HAS BEEN PURCHASED BY ICONS INCLUDING BEYONCE AND JAY-Z AND FORMER MAYOR RAHM EMANUEL.
ANGEL IDOWU RECENTLY TOOK US TO NEVERMORE PARK AN INSTALLATION THE ARTIST DESCRIBES AS INTERACTIVE AND IMMERSIVE.
HERE IS ANOTHER LOOK.
>> YOU CAN PHYSICALLY LIVE IN THIS SPACE.
LIKE YOU CAN ENGAGE IN THE SPACE IN A WAY THAT IF I CREATE A PAINTING THAT LIVES WITH YOU, RIGHT, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE TRANSFORMATIVE TO A SPACE BUT THIS IS AN ENTIRE SPACE.
AND THE BEING ABLE TO ENGAGE GO INTO THINGS YOU KNOW, AND THAT COMPLETELY CHANGES EVERYTHING.
>> WELCOME TO NEVERMORE PARK.
HOME OF FLY BOY AND LITTLE MAMA.
>> CHICAGO ARTIST HEBRU BRANTLEY'S NEW INTERACTIVE EXPERIENCE INTRODUCES THE WORLD TO THE HOME OF HIS AFTER TRO FUTURE RISK CHARACTERS.
HE HAS TO DEBUT THE ART IN THE PLACE THAT INSPIRED HIM.
>> EVERYTHING IS A PLACE THAT IS MADE UP AND YOU KNOW, IS OUR NARRATIVE A PART OF OUR STORY.
IT'S CITY OF MY BIRTH.
WHERE I COME FROM.
AND GROWING UP HERE, WE DIDN'T ALWAYS GET THE COOL STUFF.
IT WAS IMPORTANT.
THIS IS WHERE THE IDEAS STARTED.
THIS IS WHERE MY INSPIRATION CAME FROM.
GROWING UP HERE, MY EXPERIENCES SORT OF HAVE INFORMED ALL THAT GOES INTO THIS WORLD ALL THAT GOES INTO THE PAINTINGS AND CREATIONS.
SO IT JUST MADE LOGICAL SENSE AND I INTO YOU THAT CHICAGO WOULD SUPPORT.
>> TIDBITS OF CHICAGO'S HISTORY CAN BE SEEN SPRINKLED THROUGHOUT.
BRIGHT NEON SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE PILSEN BASED EXHIBIT.
RERUNS OF SANFORD AND SON CAN BE SEEN ON TV SCREENS.
A AIRMAN'S JACKET HANGS FROM A CHAIR PAYING HOMAGE TO A FLY BOY.
A NEWSPAPER STAND SITS WITH EVERYTHING FROM BUBBLE GUM TO SUNGLASSES TO ISSUES OF JET AND EBONY MAGAZINE.
AND OVERSIZED HEAD OF LITTLE MAMA SITS IN THE CENTER OF THE FLOOR WITH SONGS PLAYING AS YOU ENTER THE BACK OF HER HEAD.
A TRADITIONAL L TRAIN INVITES YOU TO SIT FOR A RIDE.
BUT IF THEY CHOOSE TO WALK TO THE BACK THEY CAN FIND A PULLMAN TRAIN CAR.
CHILDHOOD TOYS HANG FROM THE CEILING OF A CLUBHOUSE WHERE ATTENDEES CAN TRY ON GOGGLES SUPPORTED BY BRANTLEY'S CHARACTERS.
AND BEYOND THAT IS A CLOUD ROOM PLAYING A REMIXED VERSION OF CHANCE THE RAPPER'S ANGELS A MUSIC VIDEO THE ARTISTS COLLABORATED ONING TO IN 2016.
IF IT FEELS LIKE YOU'VE ENTERED ANOTHER UNIVERSE.
YOU HAVE.
FLY BOY UNIVERSE.
>> ESCAPISM IS IMPORTANT TO A DEGREE.
TIMES ARE TOUGH TO HAVE A BIT OF THAT TO REMIND PEOPLE LIKE IT'S NOT ALWAYS BAD OR ALLOWING PEOPLE TO ESCAPE YOU KNOW, THEIR SITUATION IF NOT FOR AN HOUR BUT YOU KNOW THERE'S -- I WANTED TO SORT OF BOTTLE YOU KNOW, LIKE NOSTALGIA.
IT IS A POTENT LIKE A DRUG, RIGHT.
AND PEOPLE RESPOND TO IT.
I KNOW I DO.
AND THAT SENSE OF WONDERMENT.
>> WHILE THE CREATION OF NEVERMORE PARK IS STILL WHAT THE ARTIST DESCRIBES AS A PINCH ME MOMENT HE HOPE THE FLY BOY UNIVERSE ENCOURAGES THE NEXT GENERATION OF CREATIVES TO PUSH THEMSELVES BEYOND ART MEDIUMS AND JUST DO IT.
>> WHEN PEOPLE COME THROUGH THE SPACE AND EXPERIENCE PARTS OF THIS EVEN IF THEY DON'T FULLY UNDERSTAND HOW IT CONNECTS OR WHAT CORRELATES TO WHAT, THE INTENTION IS TO INSPIRE.
THE INTENTION IS TO SHOW AND SAY, HEY I'M HERE I DON'T PROFESS TO HAVE DONE IT RIGHT OR THE BEST BUT I DID IT.
>> FOR "CHICAGO TONIGHT" I'M ANGEL IDOWU.
>> NEVERMORE PARK A FLY BOY'S UNIVERSE RUNS THROUGH DECEMBER 29TH IN PILSEN.
AND THAT IS OUR SHOW FOR THIS MONDAY NIGHT.
PLEASE JOIN US TOMORROW NIGHT LIVE AT 7:00 P.M.
ANALYSIS OF WITNESS TESTIMONY ON DAY THREE OF THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.
AND PROMINENT DANCE COMPANIES COME TOGETHER TO PAY HOMAGE TO THE LEGACY OF BLACK DANCE IN CHICAGO.
FOR ALL OF US HERE AT "CHICAGO TONIGHT" I'M PHIL PONCE AND I THANK YOU FOR WATCHING.
GOOD NIGHT.
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